ok now for my actual reply.
firstly, for point 1, i don't see it as a increment problem (though the increment with respect to rank is little) buti view your sample as a promotion problem. Why do I say so? A MSG pay should be around 2.7k to 2.8k (i know cause my MSG shared this infomation with us, telling us why we shouldn't sign on), that is normal. However, what is not normal in your issue, is that your MSG is 41yearsold. This is definitely a promotion problem not a increment problem. Secondly with respect to both of your older superiors drawing such a low salary (55 yo and 63 yo) i have no explanation for that (though they definitely should know why are they drawing such a low salary as compared to other army peers their age, and just because they don't share that with you, you shouldn't assume that it's the SAF system's fault). so as i was saying, my only explanation (with whatever army experience i have) is because their employment scheme is different to that of the schemes of regulars today.
Now on the increment issue. this can be viewed from a million viewpoints, on the increment of the saf regular pay with respect to their rank.
Is the regular a man,a WOSPEC or a Officer?
generally speaking, a man and wospec pay structure sucks, with pay raise with upranking. However, for a Officer's pay, their rank rise according to "time", and the amount raised is with respect to the education level/type of degree the officer is holding. This is why i said your sample size is too small. You only gave 3 examples of the older generation WOSPECs. If say you were to include other information about regular Corporals, Captains etc, your argument could be strengthen.
for point 4, What i am saying is that , it is perfectly normal for the organization to request that the scholar return the full amount of money he had wasted. If you're the organization offering scholarships, you would of course only want the brightest and most hardworking young blood, and these young blood are bounded by the scholarship contract if they choose to accept the scholarship. Also, since you're the organization offering free education for the young blood, you would want to actually benefit from these young blood's valuable inputs to your organization. So, actually i do not understand your example of the 2 navy guy talking about their mutual friend, who decided to pangseh his scholarship, with relevance to my previous post. and
thecakeisalie ,what's wrong with Scholarships offering organizations?
errrm point number 5 is explained already. so if you still have any doubts about point number 5, please feel free to raise them.
you can argue that one of the reason for rank is so that they could intimidate dominate and even confuse NSFs, but i do not agree with you on the word choice. for me, the rank helps facilitate command and control.
command. If there's no rank, and everyone is equal, then who will listen to anyone. everyone will have their own ideas and no wars will be won, in fact nothing productive would be done.
control. if there's no rank, who have the responsibility to ensure things are carried out, who is going to actually carry these things out?
your example is just this very one time where some one f you for not respecting the rank, he could be a 3 sgt and he would have the same right to f you just because you didn't greet him. thus, the idea of him being a 3wo is just so that you could use it as an excuse for your ideal that the regular ranks are to screw nsfs like you up.
The reason he sung to you was because you did not follow instructions, we were taught since tekong to greet any superiors we meet, in the extreme cases in tekong, we "diam" the entire parade square just to greet one time officer during water parade or other random events. So you cannot blame the rank for singing to you cause you didn't follow one of the most basic instructions.
ok, i don't understand your stayout journey relevance to the usage of rank, the picture and the "notice the word "diploma"" at all. what are you saying?
for point 7. obviously you do no know about the free military vehicle in the SAF, and i would not assume myself to be an expert on this topic either.
this must be a joke about the similar colour toyota, because the SAF don't gives out free toyotas. and whatever similar colour your OC and CSM wants to choose for themsleves is pretty much their problem and free will.
MID are the last 3 letters at the end of car license plate. Free vehicles only includes FORD , AUDI and maybe MERC (can't rmb merc). If your CSM and OC drives a TOYOTA, they are not FREE vehicles because they probably didn't qualify for them, or they are too ps to drive the ford home (if it's possible) . i think there's the this scenario where the army will subsidize your whip. and that's about all that i know of FREE cars in the army.
I'm terribly sorry if i sounded angry or portrayed any other negative emotions.
oh also, pardon me once again for my grammar mistakes (if any, hopefully not, but anyhow...)
thanks
